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22 Nov 2000  


Electoral College vs. Popular Vote

As GeorgeW gets closer to winning the election, he's starting to make more sense in his weblog:

...Given that states are effectively "mini-countries", with laws that deviate slightly from the Federal norm and constituencies that have similar interests relative to the rest of the nation, it makes intuitive sense that the Presidential candidate with an effective majority should get all the electoral votes for that state. That candidate is the one that best represents that state.

Let's take the extreme example where the bastions of the predominately liberal media, concentrated primarily in California and New England, are able to coax 100% of the voters in California and New England to vote for the Democratic candidate. Now, even if every other state in the Union were to vote primarily Republican, the Democratic candidate would still win the popular vote. All the states without shoreline would all of a sudden have no voice.

What is my point? I have three points.

1) The liberal media is bad. They offer a skewed view of public opinion. Their influence is concentrated in urban centers, which, in a popular vote, gives too much control over the outcome of the election.

2) The example is not that extreme. California was a sweep for the Democrats, in spite of the fact that most of the population live outside San Francisco and Los Angeles. The liberal media influence is strong.

3) The Electoral College system is effective in balancing the needs of the states with the needs of the people. A popular vote would not be.

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posted by schlaulau on 22 Nov 2000
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I don't think so

Scenario 1)Bush wins the election, then his sidekick dies of a heart attack (BTW for those overseas, Mr. Cheney checked himself into a hospital this morning for chest pains). Oops.

Scenario 2)Manual recount is accepted (it just happened), and the pretend-lead that Bush had just vanished. Gore wins election.

I will wager a beer that scenario 2) happens.

     
posted by danchan on 22 Nov 2000
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I don't think so?

This was about the effectiveness of the Electoral College system.

But, while we're on the topic, how can you think Bush has a pretend-lead? How is it recounting dimpled and pregnant chads is going to benefit either candidate? Net gains will be minimal unless someone starts putting votes in the wrong pile again and this time, doesn't get caught.

     
posted by Chuchen on 22 Nov 2000
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President by Commitee

Why don't we have two presidents? They do that in football all the time. Some famous two quarterback systems that have worked:
2000 Florida Gators (perennial top ten power)

1993/4 Nebraska Cornhuskers (National Championship contenders)

Countless others. The point is, Division I college football is much more demanding than running the nation and it's a lot more fun!

The line: Bush +150
Gore -150

Spread: Bush -950 Florida votes

Over/Under: 5,822,814 Florida votes

Happy Thanksgiving!

     
posted by greggman on 25 Nov 2000
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Put em in the ring

Put them in a boxing ring. No time limit. Last one standing wins.

I'd pay money to watch that!

-gregg

     
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